You're smart. I am happy that he is exploring an option to run. Like the greatest leaders I have known, he was not easily offended. I dealt with it before my excommunication, I'm dealing with it again as I try to get re-baptized. (which is saying a lot for me. We are so easily offended. Let this be a warning to the youth who read this great article...never break your winning streak! I believe that people don't credit the devil with his preciseness. Deep rooted inside of me is the desire to attain more truth and at the same time question other truths. The sister was heartbroken at this counsel and did not return to church the next week nor the week after that. Your bishop is justified in asking this question as part of “Do you live the law of chastity”. As satire, it does what satire does best, it holds up a mirror to society and begs us to look at ourselves more consciously. Then I want you to call his bishop. Three of Joseph Smith's Counselors fell-one even helped plot his death.A natural question that might arise would be, that if the Lord knew in advance that these men would fall, as he undoubtedly did, why did he have his Prophet call them to such high office? "The Church is little, if at all, injured by persecution and calumnies from ignorant, misinformed, or malicious enemies." Become Greater. Monday, May 2, 2011. The Lord will open their eyes in His own due time. Vince, your contributions are noticed. Vince,I get what you are saying. I find that so many, although good, are deceived. I thought David O. McKay demonstrated it was fine. We know, according to the Doctrine and Covenants, that the Constitution was given to men by God.Let me form a base here as I could write for hours about this subject. Clint - Thanks for your comments. Elder Holland talks here about the sacred care we need to take in how we speak to each other, because our words our powerful. Sometimes our words and actions will be misunderstood, and sometimes we will misunderstand another’s actions and intentions. And my idiot husband is forcing me to endure a portrait of you in our barn (it scares the owls away).But be warned - you darken my fridge with your presence, and you'll be drinking your burger and fries through a straw. Vince, you seem like a person of great sincerity and quite passionate about your convictions. You get to decide how you react to the wrongdoing of others.Michael Hyatt. I guess I totally over reacted. A couple of great sites are www.stoptherobbery.com & www.thecrowhouse.com. I love Ron Paul. It sucks when the people in the Church are such a pain in the ass. The Three Witnesses to the Book of Mormon left the Church. You make some excellent points in your commentary about the new world order, politics & church. I do this with all men including our leaders. Look up this term in a google search "Poe's Law". These individuals have not their footings on a sure foundation. Keep digging & never be afraid of the truth. “But it’s certainly not for nothing. These are the cultural tics we have developed, a knee-jerk defensive reaction against taking any responsibility for the way the things we say and do affect other people. The very elect will be deceived in the last days, but it will take more than a blog to cause them to fall. Again, this does not leave me without fault. He squirms and hisses as I turn people's eyes away from him and toward the true Prophet. He told me that Jo Smith told him to do it and that I was to be his new wife. But as Elder Bednar said, “Please remember that you and I are agents endowed with moral agency, and we can choose not to be offended.” When we are hurt, we can choose to be constructive about how we respond to people by … He gets so offended by it and tells me so. The best strategy I’ve found to win this game is to worry less about what you think of the adjective and more about what the other person thinks of the adjective. I will make amends. (maybe after Vince has had a chance to digest it) No one likes a spoiler. “What’s really hard is that people love to focus on intent: ‘I didn’t intend to say something mean. English (US) Español; Français (France) 中文(简体) Because of our good nature and because of our knowledge of the Spirit and revelation we accept our government leaders like we do our Church ones?I know I haven’t spent sufficient amount of time to cover these subjects more thoroughly but I can assure you that Ron Paul is a patriot and a far better candidate than any other candidate. You are expending an enormous amount of energy here to try and lead the weak things of the Earth astray. When we do that, we allow them the grace that enables them to learn and grow. We want people to just go off of the intent that we had.”. If we took the time to understand these subjects we would find ourselves greatly enlightened. That sweet bishop, out of purity and love for your daughter, felt and did that which he was constrained by the spirit to do. Be Ye Not Offended. He has continued to "prophesy" about America's future since 1970. Mitt Romney for president? I put down the card that I would pick. Just because a candidate can pass the garment test doesn't mean they have necessary knowledge to run a country. – 2 Timothy 2:24 (NLT) I don’t expect you to create such a large reply as I know you are busy.I didn’t delve into specifics so much but I will if you are interested. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. We need to ask ourselves, If I am coming from a place of love when I speak, is that love being felt and received on the other end? With the power the elite have it is very unlikely he would ever be able to become president and I would fear for him if he did. One may even ponder, "how was it that I never saw or considered that before?!" So, yes, people can be offended. But, I challenge any here who know little of him to pay close attention to what he says during the debates. The interview went according to whatever rules and handbooks you priesthood holders follow, and eventually the bishop came to my sexual purity. Not everyone thinks about the other person when they “play their cards”—not everyone considers other’s feelings when they speak. I actually appreciated that Brother Featherstone juxtaposed masterbation and leaving early for meetings. I have tried to live by this council and it has helped me to learn humility and direction for my life that has made be the person I am today. I mean no offense but I believe him to be on the Lord's errand. . Well if Ron Paul were an actual candidate he would have my vote, but that is probably largely irrelevant in Utah since a Republican is guaranteed the Presidential vote anyway.You might like this comment made on the Pure Mormonism blog regarding the 2008 republican primaries: "Nearly 90 percent of Utah Republicans -most of them LDS- favored Mitt Romney, a poor excuse for a Mormon whose public positions stand in open defiance of the teachings of Christ. A blog about the life of a Stake President in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. (Conference Report, April 1928, p. As a young woman I faced my first bishops meeting. I may have to put up with you at stake conference. This of course does not mean I always exercise agency in wisdom and often times I do not. As per this talk “there can’t be the slightest particle of rebellion…We can find loopholes in a lot of things if we want to bend the rules of the Church”. It's kids stuff. Of course, we may offend someone unintentionally. I would stick with your verifiably conservative web places. In addition, we are often taught not to criticize the church or church leaders (even if the criticism is true), so criticism itself can be seen as a taboo. You are the one who has been conquered. We won’t be perfect in how we communicate. Build a Firm Foundation. I find it very saddening when people question the faith when the Church speaks out about things such as gay marriage or immigration etc. Sometimes people ask me if I have masturbated before, as though the dirty deed has been written on my face. Steep yourself in the word of God: The word of God teaches us about grace and meekness, two sure cures for the easily offended. Allow me to discuss a recent example in my stake. He’s still there…I don’t think we can drive him off that easily. Why would Romney be a bad candidate? Simply because he adheres 100% to the Constitution. Like Vranes says, we need to take ownership of not only the intent of our words but also the way we share that intent. Why not use your gift to fight the big boys, the actual wolves in sheep's clothing in high places within the Church. I enjoy correcting him on false doctrines he preaches, both publicly and privately. President, my brother has recently taken offense over some alleged 'facts' about church history. I have already committed in my heart to do whatever you recommend. Don't procrastinate it till it's too late. We celebrate your line of authority, President. trust in the arm of flesh. In his talk “The Tongue of Angels,” Elder Holland said, “Like all gifts ‘which cometh from above,’ words are ‘sacred, and must be spoken with care, and by constraint of the Spirit.’ It is with this realization of the power and sanctity of words that I wish to caution us, if caution is needed, regarding how we speak to each other and how we speak of ourselves.”. I have not returned and do not know how to overcome my natural hesitation to reveal such intimate details to a man. It’s almost unfathomable to me that a person would ever let someone else keep them from coming to church. It’s important to understand the context behind Elder Bednar’s 2006 general conference address, when he said, “To be offended is a choice we make,” and, “To believe that someone or something can make us feel offended, angry, hurt, or bitter diminishes our moral agency and transforms us into objects to be acted upon.” Elder Bednar is focusing on agency here, on taking ownership of how we respond to others. Here’s what we know, Plans for virtual April 2021 general conference announced, Elder Bednar’s remarkable story of how 1 temple stayed open nonstop for 3 days and other messages from Church leaders this week, Elder Rasband explains the peace that comes from an eternal perspective, After First Presidency and 5 Apostles receive COVID-19 vaccination, statement released on importance of vaccinations, What would it be like to hear the Savior pray for you? . President I bring this up for a number of reasons. She specializes in video content. Please let me know if you have been offended by a church leader and share what you did to overcome such feelings. )http://www.latterdayconservative.com/articles/ezra-taft-benson/be-not-deceived/Understanding who my Stake President really is, a wolf in sheep's clothing, enables me to fight this fight. Elder David A. Bednar gave a fabulous talk in October 2006 called “And Nothing Shall Offend Them.”In it, he explains that we have free agency and thus, no one can force us to be offended. I said to this father, “You are wrong. The Latter- day Saints cannot do it all. Tom Christofferson asks how the experience would change you, Choice & Accountability,Offended,Communication,Makes You Think, ©2021 LDS Living, A Division of Deseret Book Company. Ok Patternoster. In fact I fully support it. If I could talk more frequently with my own leaders about this subject I would but more appropriate matters need to be addressed currently with them. . All you are doing is shepherding already lost sheep. We take offense to the things of God and don’t want to hear them anymore. Enjoy. How someone so antithetical to the doctrines of the restoration ever attained stature as a leading Latter-day Saint is a topic I’ll address another time, but the fact that so many active Mormons went all googly over him has to be cause for concern among the remaining faithful. Vranes was specifically referencing times she, as a black Latter-day Saint, listened to members say something hurtful or offensive to her only to explain when she confronted them, “Oh, you misunderstood my intentions.” Those individuals likely thought that by saying they didn’t “intend” to hurt her feelings that they were off the hook. I was absolutely disgusted when he asked me if I masturbated. He is the champion of the Constitution.Thanks for reading and I would gladly continue to respond if you have any questions or insight. At least, that’s what it feels like when I play against my competitive family. Thanks.You may also say that you'd vote for neither. I posed that previous question to you because I believe that by the grace of God, and many strugglings of mine own, I have been blessed with knowledge to decipher wickedness and truth. They were followed closely behind by Jehovah's Witness, Pentecostal, Seventh Day Adventist, and Baptist.Catholics rated their levels of sexual guilt at 6.34 while Lutherans came slightly lower at 5.88 . At this point I was already rebellious, and should admit dear President, that I entered into that sweet man's office defensively. I wear the burden of this grievous sin like a latter-day scarlet letter. I hope that you are aware of this reality within the Church. I suppose I questioned you because I would like to know how you feel. Many readers will see this research no matter what their opinions are of this blog. Synonyms for not easily offended include undefensive, accepting of criticism, open to criticism, thick-skinned, confident and humble. I was worried that for a lack of home teaching diligence I could go bankrupt, lose my home, and potentially my family. I think (as long as they don't throw you out by force...of course) the thing is a personal matter for you to decide which is more important, the lord...or your pride. The following five keys can help keep us from becoming offended—or if we have already been offended, quicken the healing process: 1. I personally wonder what you think regarding the leaders of the church... Why don't they speak with committed authoruty as pres Benon did? My lips have never indulged themselves in such substances and here I am today a stake president in Zion.J Hume I would counsel you to go to the temple and put your brother’s name on the prayer roll. I jokingly replied, “Duh, everyone knows that.” But then I had my own “aha” moment about his realization. Blacks and the priesthood? Wanting to share my new love of home teaching to those outside of the mountain west, I chose to leave employment with the church and found another job in the east. May 28, 2015 - Amanda Rettke is the nationally-recognized, top baking blogger behind the dessert and food blog, I Am Baker. He has called some of them there to test us. Many people I talk to think he is crazy. “You’re choosing to be offended” is counsel to apply to ourselves, not to apply to others. Hence, some are drawn into the fold and receive a testimony of the truth; while others remain unconverted . Also, why not?Upon your answer I will reply. Please see my 2nd blog post from January where I address this very issue. God is using more than one people for the accomplishment of His great and marvelous work. We have no quarrel with the Gentiles. Luke 7:23 - And blessed is [he], whosoever shall not be offended in me. But much more importantly in this church–we should quit rationalizing our own offensive behavior and lack of empathy. Then one day he had an epiphany: “I realized I’ve been playing it wrong. But as Elder Bednar said, “Please remember that you and I are agents endowed with moral agency, and we can choose not to be offended.” When we are hurt, we can choose to be constructive about how we respond to people by clearly communicating how other people impacted us. below). Please do not attempt to find such loopholes. I could not answer him at all. A disagreement doesn't start with the insult. We struggle to do that. In online discussions about my article “30 Questions Nobody Has Asked My Husband” I noticed a theme in many of the comments: the phrase “you’re choosing to be offended” (or some variation of it) emerged over and over again in response to the article. Horrible idea. . It’s easy to dismiss someone who feels offended as being “too sensitive” or “misunderstanding.” People commonly say, “It’s your choice to be offended”—as if that absolves the offender’s actions and puts the blame directly on the hurt individual. Let me explain. However, it ultimately is impossible for another person to offend you or to offend me. I rarely speak to members who have higher callings than that of my bishop. That's one of the things I love about this church.Coca Cola is an addictive drink, our body's are sacred and should not be violated and we should be doing our best to take care of ourselves, even if that means losing some weight. The questions — recently “edited for clarity,” he said — allow Latter-day Saints to attest to their beliefs in ... offended or chained to sorrows, he said, should strive to … I found myself angry at my bishop, the Church, my family, and God.This turned into a bitter seed in my heart and eventually I strayed from the church. No one here who is fooled by you would ever make it Home anyway. Actually I am just going to link them. I have a question for you President. The Divinely Inspired Church-writing Committee. Of course, there are caveats. Here, you simply make yourself out to be a fool by battering the weak like child abuser. I hate to be the spoiler but I felt bad reading your post and thinking you were investing so much time and energy in this. Lastly, let me leave you with a a talk by Ezra Taft Benson.http://www.latterdayconservative.com/articles/ezra-taft-benson/a-witness-and-a-warning/. He has been attacked from the main stream media for years to try and discredit him yet he continues to shine his light continually before the government of our nation. Let me share a quote with you. It is the fight against Satan and his workers. A 24 year old overweight single sister went to see her Bishop for some advice. What is to be done regarding this dire situation (i.e., pornography and dogmatic beliefs about sex)? All I needed to do was to look my dear wife and kids in the eyes and realize they were counting on me to be a diligent home teacher. If it’s a shot at The Church, then maybe church-goers and members might be offended, but not Utahns in general.” “It’s not about religion, it’s not about the church, it’s about Jesus Christ,” Kattia Contreras, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, told ABC4. :-). Did this man not realize that my job depended on my keeping my temple recommend? Essentially Monson was a very good prophet before actually becoming the Prophet for the Church. Also, I have ZERO problems with the Church's official doctrine. Several years ago I was living in SLC and working for CoJCoLDS. Wickedness and sin isn't just something that "happens" rather it is thoroughly, for the lack of a better term, controlled and regulated. You are quite intelligent. I would venture to say that Monson had prophesied about many things in relation to his family, his own life, government, economics and the like before becoming the Prophet of the Church. I have loads of info and am more than happy to share it with whoever I can. We have had entire civilizations living entirely under God's laws and we will one day after America is cleansed but this is for another time.God's teachings all should be very well understood to us and even the teachings that are harder to swallow for some members. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; for the anger of man does not achieve the righteousness of God. We can’t control how someone responds to our words and actions, but we can learn from those experiences so that we can do better next time. They chose to be offended by us being racists. Vranes explains, “So if I say, ‘I actually wanted you to feel loved’ and you say ‘Yeah, well that actually made me feel isolated,’ … I have to change my engagement so that my action actually matches the impact I’m having on you. Here, I believe he is talking about the Church of the Firstborn, not The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall … Watch: Lindsey Stirling pays tribute to late father in new music video, Why was the Tooele temple relocated? It is so hard core not worth it. We should not be easily offended. I suppose I will try hard to distinguish the sincere comments from the not so sincere. They could have been a wolf in sheep's clothing. To Be Offended Is A Choice. These are great comments everyone. You conquer no one here. Is it because you had a Stake President that behaved like a Prophet and offended you? I lovingly rebuked him for reading anti-Mormon literature and this only made him more offended. The church is true. Good, hard working people trying to make do. (Not implying that's why they were leaving early :)It's refreshing contrast to consider masturbation about as serious as leaving early instead of second only to murder! I didn’t intend to say something racist,’” Vranes says. Their average score was 8.19 out of 10. If people get offended at these teachings it is only because they have allowed Satan to enter their hearts. The problem is that the people do not understand the Constitution and what a free society really is! I try to tell them and they don't want to hear it. And I must admit that I did indeed masturbate frequently (and still do). They could have pushed you out of the Church consciously and now they sit back laughing every time they think about it. I'm able to laugh about it because I understand that Heavenly Father puts these wolves in sheep's clothing into the Church for His own purposes. It is full of tares. So you cross taking things personally with violating taboo, and you get easily offended as a result. This blog is pure inspired genius. Pres PN, I know you said you don't delete posts but I'd be pleased if you would delete my last one. I was reminded of this analogy recently during a conversation I heard on an episode of the LDS Living podcast All In with Zandra Vranes. I get it, 100%. Matthew 24:10 Context. This experience clearly shows that when members choose to be offended at the counsel of priesthood leaders they only end up hurting themselves. President PN probably voted for Obama, like most of his readers, including myself. Well, I perceive that many of my fellow members are deceived as to the things of this world but are some of the best people I know. I don't even want to imagine what my life would be like if I didn't have the church to guide me. But they forgot to take time to learn about the impact their words had on her and how they could approach things differently in the future to make sure that their impact could match their intent. Now I am not suggesting that he is a bad person by any means. I know that it was a message from the Lord to your daughter”. It is US that choose to be offended and stop listening…not him. But the Holy Ghost does not give up on us. This is why I'm just going to come out with it, President PN is not exactly who you think he is, and this blog is not what you think it is either. I think there's the part about loving each other instead of intentionally hurting each other. At the end of the day, communication among ward members, family members, and those we talk to every day thrives when both parties are taking ownership of their words and actions and when both people take into consideration each other’s intents and impacts. You slipped up and have felt the pangs of guilt within you since that day. 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